[MD] Thus spoke Lila

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Hi Marsha,

What you posted below reminded my of something from the Equations of Maya:

http://quanta-gaia.org/dobson/EquationsOfMaya.html

"What do the Vedantins mean by maya? First, we know from the
Upanishads (4) that it is made of three gunas: tamas, rajas, and
sattva. Tamas has its veiling power, avarana shakti in Sanskrit. Rajas
has its projecting power, vikshepa shakti in Sanskrit, and sattva has
its revealing power, prakasha shakti in Sanskrit. Now this language,
"veiling" and "revealing," is the language of perception, not the
language of manufacture. You can't make anything out of a guna as the
Sankhyans (5) wanted to do. These three gunas, of which maya is said
to be made, are just three aspects of a misperception. They are not
substances, like wood, stone, or gold, out of which objects could be
made. They are simply three aspects of an apparition."

Hey snipping and pasting is pretty easy.  Glad I didn't have to type
all that in, I would have to pretend I understood it.  :-)

Mark

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:50 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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> On Dec 7, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Arlo Bensinger wrote:
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>> [Marsha]
>> Wagner's leitmotiv seem to me like reified concepts.
>>
>> [Arlo]
>> Just out of curiosity, do you think there are such things as "unreified concepts"? If not, why do you use the word at all? Why not just say "concepts"? Or is it a pejorative, like "just"?
>>
> '
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> "Well, we 'seek and find, or project, a simplifying pattern to approximate every complex field ... by lumping (ignoring some distinctions as negligible) and by splitting (ignoring some relations as negligible)."
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> From:
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> From a review of the book ‘Buddhism and Science: Breaking New Ground’.
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> How do we deal with the complexity of experience? Well, we 'seek and find, or project, a simplifying pattern to approximate every complex field ... by lumping (ignoring some distinctions as negligible) and by splitting (ignoring some relations as negligible). Both ... create discreet entities useful for manipulating, predicting and controlling ... [but] may impose ad hoc boundaries on what are actually densely interconnected systems and then grant autonomous existence to the segments. Even the contents of our own consciousness have to be dealt with in this way, resulting in our array of fragmented self-concepts, and we just put up with the anomalies that arise. Buddhism, he explains, agrees that discovering entities is conventionally indispensable, but attachment and aggression arise through reifying them, which violates the principle that all things are interdependent, and all entities are conditional approximations."
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> http://www.westernbuddhistreview.com/vol4/buddhism_and_science.html
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> I am not opposed to reification; it's a very useful intellectual tool.
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> Marsha
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