[MD] Moq_Discuss Digest, Vol 61, Issue 75

Jan-Anders jananderses at telia.com
Wed Dec 8 03:26:40 PST 2010


Right John.

And Reality is an event.

RMP says the event is undefinable.

I say it is definable, but from any view it'll be different to any subject.

Intellect is not enough, you must "use your feelings, Luke!"

May the foice be with you.

Jan-Anders



moq_discuss-request at lists.moqtalk.org skrev 2010-12-07 19.58:
> That's the plains spoken truth, Steve.
>
> Quality = Reality
>
> MoQ = description of Reality as Quality.
>
> Very simple, really.  I always wondered if some sort of translation problem
> was responsible for all that heartache.
>
> John
>
>
> No it isn't. The MOQ doesn't contain itself in any sense that would violate
>> >  ant container logic. The MOQ (Pirsig's philosophy) is capable of being
>> >  described in MOQ terms (Pirsig's vocabulary) just as the word "vocabulary"
>> >  is contained within your vocabulary without any violation of container
>> >  logic. The MOQ doesn't literally contain itself, but it does describe
>> >  itself
>> >  as an intellectual pattern.
>> >
>> >  This is only a perceived problem for Bo because for him metaphysics is
>> >  reality rather than words about reality. Pirsig thinks metaphysics is a
>> >  thousand page menu but not food. Do you think metaphysics is reality? Does
>> >  Quality = Reality or does the MOQ = Reality?
>> >
>> >



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