[MD] Thus spoke Lila

[Platt Holden]

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Horse <horse at darkstar.uk.net> wrote:

> But the MoQ isn't the Intellectual level. Nor is SOM.
> So the Intellectual level can contain both.
>

Platt
The conclusion is contained in the premise, begging the question. .



> Horse



> Box A (the Intellectual Level) contains Box B (MoQ) and Box C (SOM) - and
> Box D and E and F..............
> None of these boxes contain Quality but both MoQ and SOM as Intellectual
> patterns of Value are contained within the larger box of the Intellectual
> level. They are separate patterns.
> So Bo's wrong.
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> Platt

Pirsig: "Quality is indivisible, undefinable and unknowable in the sense
that there is a knower and a known, but a metaphysics can be none of these
things."

The undefined and undefinable central term of the MOQ precludes it from
being just another metaphysics consisting solely of intellectual patterns.

Bo's SOL is right.



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> On 07/12/2010 15:48, Platt Holden wrote:
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>> Again Pirsig:
>>
>> "You can't have box 'A' (the MOQ) contain within itself box 'B'
>> (intellectual level) which in turn contains box 'A.' (the MOQ). That's
>> whacko.   (Parens added.)
>>
>> Bo's SOL is right.
>>
>> (Under the rules this is my final post on the subject permitted today.)
>>
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