[MD] Stuck on a Torn Slot

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Hi JA,
Thanks for the post.  I am thinking along these lines as well.  I
think the use of a physics or systems analogy is a useful way to point
at Quality.  I don't see anything wrong with providing a variety of
descriptions so long as they are understood as analogies and not
mistaken for Quality itself.

There is the possibility of using the light cone concept as well.
This is creating a space-time view of possible realities.  I view it
as a bundle of straw strands (very long of course).  At the present
the straw is held together to an infinitely small pinch, and then fans
out in the past and into the future.  (This brings the I Ching in as a
useful tool).

It is possible to envision Quality as causing that constriction in the
present moment.  Of course this is a moving constriction and very
complex since it would appear to be occurring in more than 3
dimensions.  Perhaps a glome as you present (although I have not
looked into that), where each event contains such a cone which could
be balanced as you propose.  Thus, this constriction can then be
provided with descriptive features.  Einstein would probably laugh at
this, but whatever.  Diagrams such as those provided by R. Feynman are
useful for many things.

With examples such as the one above and yours below it is difficult to
create a sense of control of one level over the other.  Everything
interacts in a synchronistic way and dominance is difficult to
pinpoint at the molecular level.

So, to respond to your admonition, I am far from being stuck in
passive moments of subjects and objects.  There are many ways out of
that.  We create such things, and do not necessarily have to.  I have
more of a dynamic or Way (Tao) perspective.  Growth outward followed
by appearance.

Cheers,
Mark

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Jan-Anders <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
>
>
> moq_discuss-request at lists.moqtalk.org wrote 2010-12-10 08.26:
>>
>> Hey JA,
>>
>> I don't know, I like the sandbox.  You go have fun with your tools.
>> Let me know when you got Quality defined, I will certainly listen.  It
>> starts like this:  Quality is....
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mark
>
> Hi Mark
>
> .. an event. Shouldn't be any conflict with either RMP, Lila or ZMM about
> that.
>
> Here is my contribution:
>
> An event is something that changes. (repeatedly in its typical static
> pattern OR dynamic and in a new way)
>
> Change in an irreversible time. (Now is a state between then and later as a
> 3D glome. Quality is the actual state divided by the possible state. Reality
> divided by desire. The value of the actual state is a balance in three
> classes; its size, its order and its expression to other states. If the
> value goes to zero it stops and it will diminish and its energy will disolve
> into other events. If the value is close to or 1 it will stay permanent and
> can be a part of new higher levels of Quality. Particles make atoms, Atoms
> makes molecules, molecules are used by organic events, organic events are
> used by social events, social events are used by intellectual events,
> intellectual events are used by MDD. Levels can be defined as the answer on
> the question: "in whos interest are we talking? Whos Value?")
>
> You use your tools in your toolbox of experience to manage the event.
>
> Managing a process is an Activity in time. Managing the Value must be done
> with all your senses, not just your intellect but also your emotional
> system. Hey Luke!
>
> During the managing process there is an event of observation that is
> processed by you and Put Back to the event by you to make it of Better
> Quality. (In the case of Rhetoric; don't just listen, but Talk!)
>
> Don't get stuck in a passive moment of concepts and objects only.
>
> Just anything change but you?
>
>
> JA
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