[MD] Thus spoke Lila

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Hi Tim,
Well this was a long one.  Fortunately only a small part was for me,
so I will respond to that part.

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:08 AM,  <rapsncows at fastmail.fm> wrote:

>
> Mark, I would suggest that you would understand Ham most properly if you
> would consider his 'nothingness' as akin to 'Quality' (Quality as the
> source of DQ/SQ).  What do you think Ham?  As I understand, Ham is
> arguing that Quality cannot be the fundament, that essence must be the
> fundament, and so there will be no cognate for 'essence' within the MoQ.
>  As I understand it, Ham is arguing that there must be something which
> gives rise to Quality, that RMP did not go back to the Source in
> postulating Quality as the Source.  As such, I think that the most
> comprehensible relation is to view Ham's 'nothingness' as akin to RMP's
> 'Quality'!  Mark, I think you will like this even more if you look at
> your thoughts regarding separation and differentiation, etc.
>
[Mark]
This may work, the devil is in the details.  Quality for me means
there are differences between things, and for whatever reason we like
some more than others.  Rather than such differences arising from the
presence of things, we can look at it the other way around and say
that it is the differences that creates the things.  Thus Quality
comes in as the creator, by separating, rather than the result.

There are more variables in Ham's approach which was why I tried to
connect the value object with Essence (as essence communicating to
itself through us) as a conduit for such transfer.  Even this,
however, requires a separate entity to be sensible to the passage of
Value.  This separate entity is of course the crux of the whole thing,
and also makes an appearance in most religions or like philosophies.

For this reason, I am still trying to get an inner grasp of Ham's
ontology.  Trying to get it to click as it were.  Thanks for your
attempt at consolidating views, words are tricky things.  They are
also very flexible, so this helps.

Cheers,
Mark
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