[MD] Radical Empiricism and Psychological Nominalism
Matt Kundert
pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com
Tue Dec 14 07:03:04 PST 2010
Hi Mark,
Mark said:
Certainly any philosophy which attempts to rectify through a holistic
approach through the rejection of the mind/matter dichotomy is not
unusual. Some philosophies do this by removing the subjective
entirely (Buddhism), others remove the objective side (mystics such
as Eckhart). This of course becomes a frame of mind which has a
hard time under rational inquiry. This may indeed be a red herring,
but I'll have to ponder that one. The unification of one with all
seems to be an endeavor coming from human experience. It is
hard to dismiss such attempts as meaningless.
Matt:
I guess I still do not agree to your sense of "holism": what I take to
be philosophical holism embodies the removal of the dividing line
between two things, not siding with or removing one side.
I also do not think that the notion of "rational inquiry" you use to say
that holistic approaches have a hard time with it is the right way to
take that notion, particularly if you want to talk about mysticism.
Much like the vaunted Reason Versus Faith conundrum that vexes
theology and popular religious debates, I think that it is misguided
for both the religious and the non-religious to put the terms of the
debate that way. Unless one equates "rational" with "physics,"
which I don't think we should do, there isn't much need to say that
Buddhists have a hard time under the scope of rational inquiry. If
some meaning-filled endeavor is coming from human experience,
something tells me it will be as rational and reasonable as any
other. If, as Pirsig suggests in ZMM, science is basically souped up
finding-your-keys-in-the-morning, then every activity humans
engage in is more or less rational.
Matt
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