[MD] Philosophy and Abstraction
Matt Kundert
pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com
Wed Dec 15 11:36:28 PST 2010
DMB said:
"What ties Dewey, Foucault, James and Nietzsche together", Rorty
says, is "the sense that there is nothing deep down inside us except
what we have put there ourselves, no criterion that we have not
created in the course of creating a practice, no standard of rationality
that is not an appeal to such a criteria, no rigorous argumentation
that is not obedience to our own conventions."
How does that NOT count as relativism? Isn't that practically the
definition of relativism? I think so.
Steve said:
Are you trying to say that James or any one of these others DOES
offer a criterion for knowledge or a standard for rationality that was
not created in the course of creating a practice? Are saying that
certain criteria are simply handed to us by reality? Are you saying
Pirsig thinks so? Surely not. But then what the heck could you be
objecting to here?
Matt:
The answer to Steve's rhetorical questions for James, I think, can
be found in one of James's famous definitions of truth: "The true
is the name of whatever proves itself to be good in the way of
belief, and good, too, for definite, assignable reasons" (from "What
Pragmatism Means"). Stanley Fish once pointed out that people
often only quote the first half of the sentence, but that you won't
understand pragmatism without "and good, too, for definite,
assignable reasons." It's those "assignable reasons" that puts us
within a conventional practice.
Matt
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