[MD] JTB

Jan-Anders jananderses at telia.com
Fri Dec 24 01:02:49 PST 2010


Hi Matt

The three classes was very nice displayed

Matt:
Here is Rorty's epistemology in a nutshell:

Knowledge is (1) justified (2) true (3) belief.
(3) Belief? A belief is a habit of action. (Pierce)
(2) True? What is true is what is good to believe. (James and Pirsig)
(1) Justified? What we are justified in believing is what we have good
reason to believe.  (disambiguation of James)

This is all just a disambiguation of James rather than a contradiction
of James considering we have "The TRUE is the name of whatever proves
itself to be good in the way of BELIEF, and good, too, for definite,
assignable (JUSTIFICATION) reasons"

When James talks about the need to have "definite assignable reasons,"
in retrospect, we can read him as talking about requirements for
knowledge rather than truth. For a person to be said to have knowledge
it is not enough to get lucky in stumbling onto the truth. One has to
have good reasons for believing it.

James has all three aspects of a JTB notion of knowledge here which
allows us to say A.  ...that what we are justified in believing is not
necessarily true.
B. Justification is our only concern in practice since justification
is our only route to truth.
C.  The word "true" preserves the cautionary note that what we are
justified in believing may turn out to have been false as well as the
common sense notion that "getting lucky" (holding an unjustified
belief that turns out to be true) does not count as knowledge.

Jan-Anders:

Both the Dynamic Quality and just any Static Quality has three classes 
like this 1,2,3 and A(3), B(1) and C(2) as above.

All are there as parts of the general conditions that separates the 
possible from the impossible. These conditions consist of three 
independent classes or dimensions.
  Try to imagine a conditions as a magnetic field from north to south 
that covers the complete universe and directs all energy to follow the 
conditions about mass and energy, the first law of enthropy for ex. All 
energy is following these conditions and appear as the conditions tell. 
1+1=2 and 2-1=1. Energy can not be created and not be destroyed.
  Now imagine that there is another completing magnetic field working in 
a perfect normal angle to the first so that like from beside it affects 
all energy and existing beings in another way independently from the 
first magnetic field. This second field of conditions are about how the 
energy can be located to each other. Any isolated piece of energy can be 
placed here and there following another kind of mathematics. The maths 
of arithmetic and trigonometrics. Triangulas and things. Elements and 
Molecules for example. The answer to why the oxygen in water molecules 
are placed  just there and not just anywhere.
  If we have two independent "magnetic fields" of conditions working on 
all things in the universe we can see that there is place for another. 
If we call it the first North-South and the other one East-West, there 
is place for another in the Up-Down direction. A third set of conditions 
which separates the possible from the impossible. This set or class of 
conditions are affecting the formed energy in another way independently 
from the two first. This is about what kind of freedom to change there 
is for anything. This set of conditions is the one needed for time to 
occur for example, other wise the whole universe would have been a 
complete static matter. The maths of statistics, quantmechanics and so on.

We have conditions for energy, order and action simultaneously. All 
managed by the general conditions that separates the possible from the 
impossible. These conditions are for everything, things, thoughts and 
concepts. That's how James and Rortys epistemology correspond.

1. The real mass, energy or number of it.
3. The shape or the form of it.
2. The expression of the form or the value to other "its".

I showed as example the little word it, how it is made up of two 
letters, they must be presented in a certain order and still can have 
any meaning to you depending on the circumstances of our communication.

The conditions for mass or number, quantity and so on is independent of 
how the mass is organized. A tetraeder can be built by apples, 
trigonometric points or planets. The value or usefulness of a screw can 
be represented by various combinations and any one of them is exchangable.

B. As I see the aspects above is the justification about the reality behind.
A. The belief is the form of our concept made out of the accessible facts.
C. The true is the value of the expression. Take it or leave it.

A disambiguation of this is not working because it is not a double but a 
triple. It should better be known as a distribiguation. Which means that 
the three aspects of the reality, the Buddha or the Quality should by 
this remain viewable in three dimensions.

The main trick is to not find one aspect of anything but three. The 
mixing up problem is any time there is a misunderstanding about which of 
the three we are talking about, or it is not clear that there is three 
different viewpoints, then the discussion fails because the premises are 
different. It is like one person talking about the weight of a pig and 
the other think it's a

The Earth is not flat, it is round. Time is not just a line between two 
events, time is like a glome, a hypersphere with three dimensions. Truth 
is abolute, approximative and acceptable simultaneously. Quality is not 
straight but bent around a whippin post.

I play with this sometimes and that is what makes sentences like 
"Something is what it is worth waiting for.."

Christmas is making all things busy. We are making a big gathering 
tomorrow with some friends. Horse-sleighing, -15 centigrade and a lot of 
snow here. Beautiful light colors in the sky. Fine whiskey, hot 
Jagermeister and winter beer.

Happy Xmas to all of you.

Jan-Anders



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