[MD] Intellectual Level

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Tue Dec 28 09:45:54 PST 2010



Horse,

Sorry, your rule is only two posts per day.


Marsha 






On Dec 28, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Horse wrote:

> And you like to hide behind anything that suits your purposes.
> 
> Pirsig specifically rejected Bo's ideas and yet this was either:
> 1) Ignored by you and others or
> 2) Pirsigs rejections are used as supporting evidence against what they specifically reject - I.e. such as when Pirsig says X he really means ~X - he's just too dumb to understand what clever people say.
> So the problem here would be that even if I had a note or an email showing that Pirsig completely and totally rejected your ideas - you would either ignore what he says or say that he really agrees with you - he's just too dumb to realise it! This is what Bo did and this is how you supported Bo. So, if we're going down the evidential road you need to find something that shows that Pirsig specifically supports what you say. That way you can use it as evidence that Pirsig supports you. Do you have anything?
> 
> The whole point about your reification idea is that it is a fallacy!
> That's why it's referred to as 'The Reification Fallacy' - there's a clue there that it might be a fallacy!
> But if you want to stick to your misinterpretation of reification then please answer these questions which I have asked you before but you refused to answer.
> We'll start off with these:
> Tell me how zero is reified
> Tell me how the square root of -1 is reified
> Tell me how a hypercube is reified
> Tell me how multi-dimensional mathematical concepts in a 3 dimensional world are reified
> 
> These are specific examples, not generalizations, of questions that need to be answered if your idea is correct and reification is, indeed, not a fallacy.
> 
> Horse
> 
> P.S. And if you don't feel able to answer my questions today, there's plenty of time tomorrow.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 28/12/2010 15:32, MarshaV wrote:
>> Horse,
>> 
>> So the best you can do is answer the question with a question???
>> 
>> Since RMP has never been asked about my interpretation of the Intellectual
>> Level, my interpretation being based on reification, the answer is obviously no.
>> But you have no evidence that he rejects the reification interpretation either.
>> 
>> Well that's if for today because there is some kind of limit on the number of posts
>> per day I can make on this subject.
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:15 AM, Horse wrote:
>> 
>>> Do you have something to show that Pirsig supports either your or Bo's ideas.
>>> 
>>> On 28/12/2010 15:09, MarshaV wrote:
>>>> Hi Horse,
>>>> 
>>>> Do you have some letter or post on RMP's opinion on reification?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Horse wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> P.P.S.  No he wasn't - no-one could have got it more wrong.
>>>>> 
>>>>> P.P.P.S. Except possibly about reification and the Intellectual level.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Horse
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 28/12/2010 14:34, MarshaV wrote:
>>>>>>  p.s.   Bo was correct...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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