[MD] Intellectual Level

[MarshaV]

And Ron, just for the record, I am not prone to have 
temper tantrums.  I have never spoken a word of blame 
or anger towards Horse, on or offlist.  Of course I was 
upset that Bo left, and at times I can get generally snippety, 
but I do not ever think I have the absolute truth to proclaim 
what is right and wrong.  Christ, I'm a relativist. 





On Dec 30, 2010, at 10:12 AM, MarshaV wrote:

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> 
> Ron,
> 
> RMP from Oxford dvd - Code of Art:  
> 
> "Oh, art as placed in the levels of evolution.  Well, if you read the
> Metaphysics of Quality, you know there are four levels of evolution: the
> Inorganic, the Biological, the Social, and the Intellectual.  And art is a
> mixture of all of those with Dynamic Quality..."
> 
> ---
> 
> It was Bo's choice to leave.   I miss him.  
> 
> 
> Marsha  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 30, 2010, at 9:57 AM, X Acto wrote:
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>> Lucy,
>> If I thought for a moment you were actually serious..
>> 
>> It's pointless
>> 
>> when I do serve up several, you convieniantly dismiss it
>> as "code of art".
>> 
>> but thats not what this is about is it?
>> Its about pushing Horse, it's about you 
>> being pissed about Bo's choice to leave.
>> 
>> a cause to take up
>> 
>> you are going to force Horse's hand,
>> Bully him into taking a stand.
>> 
>> and when he does
>> 
>> it'll give you all the justification of your beliefs..
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 8:55:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MD] Intellectual Level
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Okay Mr. Dirtymouth,
>> 
>> Why don't you introduce an intellectual static pattern of value 
>> that hasn't be cut off from its codependent processes?  
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha 
>> 
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>> 
>> On Dec 30, 2010, at 8:30 AM, X Acto wrote:
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>>> My interpretation of the Intellectual Level is based on reification. The fourth 
>>> 
>>> level  is comprised of static patterns of value such as theology, mathematics, 
>> 
>>> science and philosophy. The way that these patterns function is as reified 
>>> concepts and the rules for their rational analysis and manipulation.  
>>> Reification decontextualizes.  Intellectual patterns process from a 
>>> subject/object conceptual framework creating false boundaries that give the 
>>> illusion of independence as a “thing” or an “object of analysis.”  The fourth 
>>> level is a formalized subject/object level (SOM), where the paramount demand is 
>>> 
>>> for rational, objective knowledge, which is free from the taint of any 
>>> subjectivity like emotions, inclinations, fears and compulsions in order to 
>>> pursue, study and research in an unbiased and rational manner. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> OH God,...
>>> 
>>> what a transpearent attempt at opening up, yet again, another flame war for 
>>> your 
>>> 
>>> amusement.
>>> You are incapable of making any meaningful thoughtful contributions and since 
>>> you're bored
>>> alone and no one else will speak to you, you decide to take it out on the 
>>> people 
>>> 
>>> here.
>>> 
>>> you are soo self absorbed 
>>> 
>>> Thats right!
>>> 
>>> arise! o persecuted one!
>>> 
>>> fight the power!
>>> 
>>> fuck the man!
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Ron
>>>