[MD] JTB
Ian Glendinning
ian.glendinning at gmail.com
Fri Dec 31 00:08:25 PST 2010
Steve, Matt (and DMB)
My point - the value I attempted to add to the conversation - Steve
and Matt, is a suggested focus on which of these views is "worth"
anything, not about their either/or logic, which is a (linguistic)
red-herring.
In your direct question below.
A yes in logical theory, BUT moot, worthless, no quality, no value
experienced - not knowledge
B no, BUT this is just a question of the quality / goodness of the
justification in the first place. The "FUND" sum total of
justifications (value) experienced. (See DMB's latest Jamesian post.)
Knowledge value is that holistic goodness, quality experienced.
It's not a matter of (accidental / uncomprehending) conflation of the
"A / yes / but and B / no / but" distinction, but a choice about any
value in the distinction. As DMB says it's not either / or it's
neither / nor.
Ian
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Steven Peterson
<peterson.steve at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Ian,
>
>
>> Steve, you remake my point several times.
>> (I wasn't suggesting you didn't understand Matt ? This is not
>> personal. It's much more important than that.)
>
>
> Steve:
> I'm not sure what your point is then. Before I try to clarify any
> thought experiments or provide additional examples, do you think that
> a belief can be...
>
> A. true but not justified?
> B. justified but not true?
>
> If so, if someone holds a true belief that is not justified, is that knowledge?
>
> Can someone hold a justified true belief that does not count as knowledge?
>
> Note that A and B are ruled by DMB's conflation of "true" with "justified."
>
> This entry gets at a lot of JTB issues...
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettier_problem
>
> Best,
> Steve
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