[MD] The difference between a Monet and a finger painting
John Carl
ridgecoyote at gmail.com
Mon Feb 1 13:19:50 PST 2010
Wow! Dude! I've never witnessed an analogistic attack upon an ontogeny as
pedophilic before.... The Sophists would salute you with the full triple
Rimmer on this one I think. I don't know what to say... I'm anxious to read
Ham's reply.
yum-m-m
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:08 PM, David Thomas
<combinedefforts at earthlink.net>wrote:
> Ham,
>
> > I'm glad something clicked. But you're still hung up on a physical
> > universe.
> > Think of the universe as a "world of appearances" which you yourself
> > intellectualize from sensory experience. It is your world, your reality,
> > the object of your subjectivity.
> > What you see as beautiful is what you value as beauty. What you admire as
> > intelligent reflects your intellectual values. The morality you aspire to
> > is what your sensibility values as good and virtuous.
>
> > If you can't think of yourself as "special", try thinking of someone you
> > regard as special. Or think of the achievements of mankind throughout
> > history. Surely there is something very special about human interaction
> > with the world, as compared with any other species or entity. In a
> > valuistic (qualitative) sense, the universe is an anthropocentric system
> > whose form, qualities, and attributes are defined by man's experience and
> > measured in terms of his value-sensibility. Being itself is a construct
> > that you "create" valuistically. Things ("in themselves") don't have to
> > "perceive" values inasmuch as their existence is the result of YOUR value
> > sensibility.
>
> I saw a PBS documentary last night on a Mennonite Church in California that
> has established a support group for convicted pedophiles released from
> prison. In their group discussions and interviews it was apparent they were
> all struggling to overcome personal philosophies very much like the one you
> describe above. All their stories were versions of, If "what I see as
> beautiful" is little girls or boys and I think of myself as "special" then
> these "things" "don't have...values" other than what I "construct or
> create"
> of what is "good" for me. I just found these uncared for, poor, beautiful,
> waifs without love and I was just giving them some.
>
> Yuck,
>
> Dave
>
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