[MD] Stasis, Delcination or Improvement of Quality

[markhsmit]

Hi Bruce,
This is similar, imo, to what we have been discussing in terms
of Quality reversing a theory of thermodynamics.  I prefer to not
use the term Chaos, because even that can be modeled and
form predictions.  I prefer the terms disorder to order.  Entropy
increase is thought to be the direction of time.  However,
there is no reason why we couldn't use Quality as time's direction.

I do not think that energy consumption is necessary, unless Quality
lies within another system, such as life does within the sun's (entropic)
rays.  Perhaps Quality is always constant, that is for every increase
in Quality there is an equal decrease.  Perhaps Quality increases in
a zig-zag fashion, there is no telling if we are on the upswing or
downswing right now.  If one uses calculus, one can interconvert
DQ with SQ, in the same way that speed and acceleration can be
interconverted.  I am hoping somebody will come up with the equation
sometime (Einstein, where have you gone?).

I believe there are many ways to understand Quality, all that is required
is consistency in the argument.  But, it may also be possible to
understand Quality through inconsistency and contradiction in
argument.  Logic can only take us so far, then we have to rely
on our other faculties.

Thanks for the post,
Mark

On Feb 2, 2010, at 2:51:19 PM, "Bruce Underwood" <bruce.underwood at hotmail.com> wrote:
From:   "Bruce Underwood" <bruce.underwood at hotmail.com>
Subject:    [MD] Stasis, Delcination or Improvement of Quality
Date:   February 2, 2010 2:51:19 PM PST
To: "MOQ Discuss" <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>



Hello Folks,

I have been wrestling with this idea for a while and thought I would throw it out here for comments and banter.  I hope to do better about responding, but it is hard to find the time to respond as I would like to.

The idea here started off by thinking of what "Static" means and applying that to three areas: Stasis, declination and improvement.  As many of you have seen, I think that Chaos is the state where something has declined from organization to an absolute state of disorganization and is thus the opposite of Quality.  However,energy still exists, but in a disorganized state.  Dynamic Quality will continue to affect the energy. I see things as energy either moving towards improved organization or moving towards chaotic disorder.  Below is a link to an image that depicts what I have been thinking about.  You may want to think of it as life as you view it or most any item that is static.

 http://www.thinnerself.com/quality_of_improvement.gif


I was thinking about this and came to think of "Quality" as being in one of three states “Quality” states:

Static Quality: 
Static Quality attempts to maintain the status over time. Static Quality?s position is to neither improve nor decay, but to maintain status quo. However, from an energy stand point, Static Quality must consume energy in order to maintain its position to not be consumed by Dynamic Quality of Chaos or Dynamic Quality of Improvement. By default then it would appear that Static Quality is a destructive force by nature as it consumes energy to remain static.

Dynamic Quality of improvement: 
Its mission is to improve Quality over time by destruction and construction and to establish ratchet points of Quality.  By nature, it consumes energy to move forward towards in a positive direction over time.

Dynamic Quality of declination: 
It mission is to diminishes or decay Quality over time. Items move towards chaos and are being consumed in destruction.  The only state of "true Static Quality" is a state of total disorganization of energy into a chaotic state.

Thanks for your thoughts and responses,

Bruce

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