[MD] Demanding Evidence From Theists

[Arlo Bensinger]

[Platt]
I would argue that even though DQ cannot be captured by S/O 
intellectual verbal patterns it can be captured by art (including poetry)

[John]
As I've said before, DQ can't be defined in words, only experience.

[Arlo]
I think you're both right, but here's how I would say it. "DQ can not 
be captured by literal symbolic patterns, outside of the immediate 
NOW moment, it can only be approached by metaphorical symbolic patterns".

"Metaphorical symbolic patterns" includes painting, sculpture, dance, 
music, literature and of course, poetry and other forms.

Did hell just freeze over?

Of course, I'd add that "literal symbolic patterns" are the S/O 
illusion. All symbolic patterns are metaphorical.