[MD] Mao & The MoQ

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Hi Ham

14 Feb.:

Mark before
> > I believe there is a drive for the supremacy of the intellect.
> > This is one of the things that bothers me about MoQ. It
> > could be argued that Socialism is more intellectual than
> > Capitalism (maybe not argued well, but argued nonetheless).
> > The problem with control over all through the intellect
> > is that there are many contradicting intellects. A democracy
> > seems to allow for this, and appeals to the masses (who of
> > course cannot think for themselves) by the virtue of choices.

Ham:
> It bothers me, too.  But I think the problem with the MoQ is
> epistemological rather than political.  It is impossible to discuss
> intellect or morality with those who regard these uniquely human
> functions as extracorporeal levels or patterns.

I called Mark and John "an one-eyed leading a blind", but you and 
Mark beats my supply of "lost" metaphors. Mark speaking about 
"drive for the supremacy of intellect" not having the faintest idea what 
the intellectual Q-level means and you chiming in with your notorious 
criticism of the MOQ. However you your attack are from an open 
opposition and ten times better than the alleged supporters' 
misguided tangle

Capitalism, socialism,  fascism, nazism ....etc. All "isms" are 
intellectual (read SOM) terms for political trends. From the MOQ seen 
the first two matches Q-intellect where "economy" has been isolated 
and made an object for study, eventually to be improved by some 
program. Fascism and nazism on the other hand matches social 
value in the sense of not having any "nomi" or "logi" as their goal, 
rather to bring existence (in this case Italy and Germany) away from 
modernity back to some ideal past. (for Italy the Roman and for 
Germany some "übermenschlisches" mythological past.      
 
> Speaking of political arguments, I'm running one of the best essays on
> Socialism I've ever seen in my Values Page column this week.  Jack
> Swift is an attorney experienced in constitutional as well as domestic
> law.  Here is an excerpted paragraph in which he compares all the
> forms of collectivist rule:

Your essay you can stuff, with the most friendliest greetings from.

Bodvar