[MD] Capitalism

[plattholden at gmail.com]

On 21 Feb 2010 at 15:17, gav wrote:

> hiya,
> 
> > Platt
> > Seems to me that conservative principles such as democracy,
> > trial by 
> > jury,
> > freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of
> > assembly, 
> > freedom of travel, limited government,  private
> > property, etc. as 
> > established by the U.S. Constitution is best NOW unless you
> > have 
> > something better to offer. 
> 
> democracy is a great idea. america (or australia) doesn't have it - at all.

How so? 
 
> trial by jury....great idea for a criminalised existence. how about lore over law?

So you favor anarchy?

> freedom of speech? - to say what where? the media is owned by billionaires

You can say what you want. That doesn't mean society owes you a 
microphone.

> freedom of the press? ha! - read manufacturing consent by chomsky

Chomsky? Thanks for the laugh.

> freedom of assembly? - except if you constitute a threat to national security - ie arbitrarily withdrawable

Not arbitrary. In the U.S. you need a court order. 

> freedom of travel? - less than what is it 5% of americans travel o/s, so what's the point - insularity rules. freedom to travel the well worn tourist trail is not really travel anyway. if you do take to the open rod you will pretty quickly run into trouble - police or otherwise.

The point is you are free to travel if you want to.  Doesn't mean you 
have to. 

> limited government - any government is illegitimate.

Ah yes, an anarchist.

> private property - is a crime against the planet. perpetual leases would be a better idea.
 
Leases from whom?

Platt