[MD] A fly in the MOQ ointment

[Horse]

Hi Mary

The Intellectual Level is created by Intellectual Patterns of Value.
Not all Intellectual Pattens of Value are either subjects or objects.
This creates a problem for Bo so he has to try and re-classify those 
Intellectual Patterns which are not S/O as Social Patterns.
This creates all sorts of problems and results in a mangling of the MoQ 
in order to accommodate Bo's ideas.
A Metaphysics is an Intellectual Pattern of Value and SOM is one of a 
number of metaphysical systems (S/O, Process, Quality etc.- and this is 
only the Western systems - there are plenty more Eastern based systems) 
and all exist within the Intellectual level and are created by IPOV. 
Creating new levels for each metaphysics is absurd.
Are you, like Bo, denying that those huge bodies of Eastern philosophy 
(which are not SOM) are not Intellectual Patterns of Value when they 
emerged without the benefit of SOM? Are you saying that all non-SOM 
metaphysical systems are either variations of SOM or only exist at the 
Social level?
Do you see where this is leading? Bo has to dismiss, deny or denigrate 
everything that Pirsig has said which is/are counter to Bo's mistaken 
notions - implying that Pirsig is so foolish and naive that he doesn't 
even understand his own work!!!!
Additionally, he dishonestly claims that Pirsig pretty much agrees with 
him that his pet theory is correct, even when Pirsig specifically 
rejects this in the same letter!

Cheers


Horse





On 21/02/2010 23:36, Mary wrote:
> HI Horse,
>
> Wow.  I tend to agree with Bo.  At least most of what he says.  The
> Intellectual Level is SOM.  Please explain how I am incorrect.  I am not
> arguing, would just like to know.
>
> Mary
>
> - The most important thing you will ever make is a realization.
>
>    

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