[MD] Capitalism: my experience

X Acto xacto at rocketmail.com
Thu Feb 25 09:55:06 PST 2010





Bo

25 Feb. you said: (Platt)

> Pirsig explains what "the essence of the MOQ is" in the following from
> LC, Note 132:

    "It (the MOQ) employs SOM reasoning the way SOM 
    reasoning employs social structures such as courts and 
    journals and learned societies to make itself known.  SOM 
    reasoning is not subordinate to these social structures, and the 
    MOQ is not subordinate to the SOM structures it employs. 
    remember that the central reality of the MOQ is not an object 
    or a subject or anything else.  It is understood by direct 
    experience only and not by reasoning of any kind.  Therefore 
    to say that the MOQ is based on SOM reasoning is as useful 
    as saying that the Ten Commandments are based on SOM 
    reasoning.  It doesn't tell us anything about the essence of the 
    Ten Commandments and it doesn't tell us anything about the 
    essence of the MOQ."  

Bo:
Thanks Platt for bringing this quote that again affirms the SOL.

".....THE WAY SOM EMPLOYS SOCIAL STRUCTURES". 

See he treats SOM as the level above the social level. Ergo 
SOM=Intellect. Can it be said clearer?  

"THE MOQ EMPLOYS SOM (=INTELLECT) ...." 

See he treats the MOQ as something above - and "employs" intellect. 
Ergo the MOQ it is not an intellectual pattern.

Ron:
Read:
    "It (the MOQ) employs SOM reasoning the way SOM 
    reasoning employs social structures such as courts and 
    journals and learned societies to make itself known."

".....THE WAY SOM EMPLOYS SOCIAL STRUCTURES
SUCH AS .....(PIRSIG GIVES SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF
SOCIAL LEVEL PATTERNS WHY WOULD HE DO THAT
IF HE ONLY MEANT THE SOCIAL LEVEL.)

"to say that the MOQ is based on SOM reasoning is as useful 
    as saying that the Ten Commandments are based on SOM 
    reasoning.  It doesn't tell us anything"

CONTEXT BODVAR, CONTEXT!!!!


      



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