[MD] A larger system of understanding

[X Acto]

On 9 Jul 2010 at 15:39, X Acto wrote:

> Ron prev;
> 
> > What you seem to have trouble understanding is the concept
> > of self-refferential systems. Which is not qite the same thing
> > as what Wilber was forwarding.
> 
> Platt:
> Oh, I understand all right -- the box SOM can't escape.  
> 
> Ron:
> Right, when you take certain Objective assumptions to be true,
> one can not escape. But if one takes value as being true then
> those contradictions dissolve.

Platt:
Not sure what you have in mind, but if you mean that value transcends SOM 
intellect I agree. 

Ron:
This is where the interpretive factor gets kinda sticky. If one takes the tack 
of
SOM= the intellectual level, then no. Because it can't. It contradicts it's own 
assertion.
SOM is the highest static good and the four levels is all there is. If one does
take that value transcends the intellectual level then all sorts of twisted
rationalized arguements arise to support this assertion. It becomes 
indestinguishable
from religous rationalized arguements. It becomes a destroyer of the 
intellectual level.
It seeks to kill all intellectual patterns. The highest good mind you per SOL.
The intellect commits suicide looking to transcend to some rationalized state
thats is indefinable. Sounds like a religion.