[MD] Side Step

[Mary]

Hi X Acto and John,

I'm encouraged to see ego entering the conversation as it relates to SOM.  I
see it as a big part of the equation.  It is something we all have to look
in the face as part of our long individual journeys to escape the SOM
worldview.  

It is the most human of characteristics.

We are, each of us, just one small ego speaking to others identical.

Best,
Mary

On Behalf Of X Acto
> 
> To add:
> 
> It would seem that camp, looks more at changing the world
> than changing themselves because of those values.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 9:01:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Side Step
> 
> John,
> Interesting angle. When  we take a closer look,
> fear does tend to tighten the grip on that which
> we feel is certain. Those defining patterns of self.
> We are our values.
> 
> Since you tied objectivism with ego, rejecting
> it is allowing in a certain respect the ego to "Die".
> 
> This is particulary frightening to those who have
> invested alot of "themselves" in the defining
> of their self.
> 
> And lets face it, RMP asks us to re-evaluate our
> conception of self, what it means to "be".
> 
> If you are not prepared to accept that then
> a value centered reality is not going to make
> much sense.
> 
> It would hold little value for them.
> 
> -Ron
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com>
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Sent: Fri, July 9, 2010 7:54:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Side Step
> 
> Man oh man, Ron, you hit the nail on the head.
> 
> As usual.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:10 PM, X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Ian,
> >
> > good points
> >
> > I sense Platt and Bo DO believe in what their saying.
> >
> > and in THAT sense they are not being dishonest.
> >
> > BUT
> >
> > What we should ask ourselves, really reflect,
> >
> > why they hold the values that they do.
> >
> > Because it is clear, it's not for rational reasons.
> >
> >
> Rationality can't be grasped by rational reasonings, only Quality ones.
> 
> What's missed by this little irrationality, is a good look in the
> mirror at
> the monster within that doesn't want to relinquish control.
> 
> Objectivism = ego in control
> 
> I'm starting to understand better all the time.
> 
> Bo's clinging = fear of death.
> 
> I told him to take shrooms, but does he listen?
> 
> Stubborn north men in the dark gloomy thinkings, huddled close to the
> only
> fire they know.
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