[MD] LC Comments

plattholden at gmail.com plattholden at gmail.com
Sun Jul 11 06:02:27 PDT 2010


On 11 Jul 2010 at 1:09, Magnus Berg wrote:

> Dan:
> Subjective and objective are shorthand terms for patterns of value.
> How is that wrong?

Because subject and object is created by the Quality event.
And a Quality event is of one the levels, either intellectual, social, 
biological or inorganic.
So, at each inorganic quality event, there's a subject and an object.

[Platt]
Right. And Pirsig says as much. In answer to my question, "How could inorganic 
static patterns be created unless inorganic entities like atoms were able to 
experience?" Pirsig replied, "I think the answer is that inorganic objects 
experience events but do not react to them biologically socially or 
intellectually.  They react to these experiences inorganically, according to 
the laws of physics." [LC, Note 30]

[Magnus continues]
At each biological quality event, there's a subject and an object.
At each social quality event, there's a subject and an object.
At each intellectual quality event, there's a subject and an object.

If Pirsig were telling the truth and all intellectual and social 
patterns were subjective and all biological and inorganic patterns were 
objective, then the only possible quality events would be:

intellectual-biological
intellectual-inorganic
social-inorganic
social-biological

That's what's wrong.

	Magnus





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