[MD] A larger system of understanding

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Platt, Dan, All.
 
8 July. 
 
Platt had said:
> > The MOQ escapes the intellectual level by including within its
> > system of understanding that, "Thought is not a path to
> > reality,".a direct contradiction of intellectual values.
 
Right, the 4th level  is a MOQ subset and the MOQ cannot fit inside 
even if the "weak interpreters" try their best. It will always leave a part 
uncovered (like trying to wrap an article in a too small paper)   
"Thought is not a path to reality ...etc." Great,  in what context did you 
find that? 
 
Dan:
> No, the MOQ is an intellectual system of understanding reality, not
> reality itself, which is why thought will never bring us closer to
> reality.

"The MOQ an intellectual system ...." My foot! It can't be a Q-
intellectual system because intellect is a MOQ sub-set  and - 
according to Pirsig - can't contain the container that contains itself.  A 
little bit of logic would do!. Your "weak" interpretation demands that the 
MOQ is a pattern of SOM's "mind", but if mind is back, SOM is back 
and if so the MOQ is dead. Wonder why so many work overtime to kill 
the MOQ and abuse those who try to save it?  

And " .... not reality itself". If anything characterises SOM it is the 
distinction between what's secondary and reality itself. Socrates' 
"Appearance/Reality" was the first variant of it, with Plato the Greeks 
started to speculate what was real and what was apparent and his 
reality were Ideas with senses the deceptive part. With Descartes 
modern SOM arrived  with mind the illusory part and matter the real 
one. So Dan, it proves you live in SOM-land.

And moreover it proves that the weak interpreters regard Q-intellect to 
be a mental compartment where ideas - old and new - slosh around. 
And this is supposed to be the MOQ that rejects the subject/object - 
plus mental/corporeal - as the primary metaphysical split. You can 
"crap" and "fuck" (in your newfangled Glover style, different from your 
earlier creepy superpolite one) but you have been exposed as a fraud.            

Bodvar