[MD] LC Comments

[Dan Glover]

Hello everyone

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:46 AM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Magnus said to Dan:
> Of course the MoQ isn't reality itself, it's an intellectual pattern that describes reality in much the same way a physical formula does.
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> However, in the same way a physical formula does its best to reflect how physics will behave given certain preconditions, so will also the MoQ do its best to reflect how reality will behave.
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> So, just as it is silly to assume that there *isn't* a sun that is shining over us every day, that it's somehow just a grand illusion, it's equally silly to assume that the levels doesn't have any real correspondence in reality.
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> dmb says:
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> Well, no. I think it's very important to understand that getting rid of this idea of correspondence to reality is part of getting rid of SOM.

Dan:
Right. You could say a map corresponds to the territory and indeed
that's the purpose of a map. But it is important to remember that the
territory changes constantly... rivers change their banks, islands
rise and sink, coast lines continually erode.. so the map is never,
ever the territory. It only corresponds to the territory when it is
useful.

On a side note, I want to say how great it is to have had the
opportunity over the years to have gotten to know you, Dave. I don't
mean personally. I mean intellectually. I think we joined the MOQ
discussion about the same time back in 1998. And we don't always agree
on things but all in all I can't think of anyone I agree with more
when it comes to the MOQ. And I am deeply impressed at how much your
thinking has grown and evolved over the years.

On the other hand, there are contributors here who are the same people
they were when I joined the group a dozen years ago. Go back and read
the archives if you don't believe me. They know who they are. I don't
have to name names. And I know we all have our reasons for being here.
Chit chat is fine if that is what you value. But then why disturb,
denigrate, and mock those of us here who have a genuine interest in
learning and furthering the MOQ.

Time to grow up.

Wouldn't you say?

Dan