[MD] LC Comments

skutvik at online.no skutvik at online.no
Tue Jul 13 02:01:21 PDT 2010


DMB, Magnus, All

DMB had said .

> > Well, no. I think it's very important to understand that getting rid
> > of this idea of correspondence to reality is part of getting rid of
> > SOM.

I agree with this particular sentence, but if your "medicine" (the many 
truth explanation) is the solution I doubt, however forget it for now.   

Magnus replied: 
> No. They have nothing to do with each other.

They have very much to do with each other, but listen you two guys: I 
have earlier referred to Phaedrus' insight in ZAMM (the campfire 
speech) about Newton's Theory creating the Gravity Reality. DMB 
seems not (to wish) to understand what P. says here, namely that 
great theories create new realities, or at least he interprets theories as 
intellectual patterns that expands rationality. However, I think P's aim 
was far greater, translated into moqspeak that the MOQ creates the 
QUALITY REALITY. How is it Magnus do you have an opinion on this 
issue? 

At least Pirsig's QUALITY/MOQ "meta-metaphysics" is a grave 
violation of Phaedrus' insight, now HE postulates that Quality has been 
from eternity  - like Newton postulated that gravity has always been - 
but according to Phaedrus gravity was nowhere until Newton, 
consequently Quality was nowhere until Pirsig and the MOQ IS THE 
QUALITY REALITY. Anything else than this radical - strong 
interpretation - will leave the MOQ easy prey to SOM-based criticism. 

Doe this ring any bells with you Magnus, I'm not able to decipher your 
texts. 


Bodvar    
















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