[MD] Intellectual honesty
david buchanan
dmbuchanan at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 13 15:10:57 PDT 2010
John think this makes his point "that it was a 'shock' to later Pirsig to learn of an Idealism that was so completely congruent or "perennial" with the MoQ because he'd earlier associated Idealism with Hegel's Idealism".
John said:
Ummm... dave? You did read the quote at the end of the Annotations? I mean, how can you possibly construe [this] as not enthusiastic? The man is jumping up and down going "woo hoo" but you think you can interpret it however you want, however it serves your purpose.:
"So It has really been a shock to see how close Bradley is to the MOQ. Both he and the MOQ are expressing what Aldous Huxley called "The Perennial Philosophy," which is perennial, I believe, because it happens to be true. Bradley has given an excellent description of what the MOQ calls Dynamic Quality and an excellent rational justification for its intellectual acceptance. It and the MOQ can be spliced together with no difficulty into a broader explanation of the same thing."
dmb says:
John, I can tell from this that you do not even understand the meaning of the word "perennial", let alone the phrase "perennial philosophy", which is exactly where Pirsig finds such shocking agreement. (I also subscribe to the perennial philosophy, by the way.) I also think it's a pretty ridiculous stretch to say his shock is a result of expecting Hegel. He's shocked because he could find so little to agree with and so much to object to in Bradley's positions up to that point. Of course he's surprised to find that he's close to describing the MOQ's central term. (That's what makes the perennial philosophy work.)
Sorry, John. But every time we get into it, I end up having to explain your evidence to you. It's just too hard to believe that you know what you're talking about, so I'm done.
Again.
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