[MD] Decision

Ham Priday hampday1 at verizon.net
Tue Jul 13 15:30:16 PDT 2010


Craig, Mary and All  --

I don't want to get involved in the Bodvar controversy, but Craig's recent 
exchange with Mary illustrates the folly of treating intellect as a "level".

[Craig]:
An argument for SOL = Intellectual level:
1) The intellectual level is the manipulation of symbolic
     representations
2) Symbolic representation requires both
    something-represented & something-represented-to
3) Something-represented is an object
4) Something-represented-to is a subject
5) :. The intellectual level requires subjects & objects

Of course intellect requires a cognitive subject.  Who can deny that?
But a level, realm, or domain is a place or repository for something.  You 
have used it as a process: "manipulation".  As I have insisted all along, 
intellect is not a LEVEL, it's a cognitive function.  In fact, it's the 
function of subjective reasoning.

[Mary replies]:
>
> Exactly.
>
> The Pirsig koan.
>
> To understand that the Intellectual Level is "thinking itself" as he has
> said, requires a clear understanding of what "thinking itself" is - 
> clearer
> might be to say it requires an admission of what thinking itself is.
> Once you have made this realization, the next step would be to
> consider in what ways this "thinking itself" differs from the thoughts
> of the Social Level. What purposes of its own does it serve?

If Pirsig has defined Intellect as "thinking itself", it cannot be a level. 
Thinking or reasoning is a mental activity performed by a person (subject). 
As Ayn Rand astutely observed, "There is no such thing as a 'collective 
thought'."  Society has no mind of its own, so it can only subscribe to the 
reasoning of individuals who do the thinking.

Why must we complicate matters by imagining thoughts and conceptions as 
belonging to a level of Quality?  Does Creativity have a level, too?  What 
about Talent, Intelligence, or Mechanical Aptitude?  These are but a few of 
numerous attributes that are subjective in function.  To posit them as 
extracorporeal "levels" defies epistemology and is irrational in my opinion. 
The only explanation I can see for this anomaly is that it helps us pretend 
that there are no subjects (or objects).

Essentially speaking,
Ham





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