[MD] Bo's weak versus strong interpretation of quantum physiks

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On 16 Jul 2010 at 13:00, Krimel wrote:

[Platt]
Exactly. That's why Pirsig compared the MOQ to the Copernican revolution
that 
brought about a complete change of reality, the sun replacing the earth as
the 
center of the universe. We are still feeling the reverberations from that 
cataclysmic shift of reality. 

[Krimel]
I have always thought Pirsig used the Copernican revolution metaphor for the
same megalomaniacal reasons Kant did. The MoQ only seems like that kind of
shift if you haven't kept up with the myriad of similar revolutions that
have occurred since Kant and Newton. Kuhn of course is the expert on
paradigm shifts. One of his early works was specifically on the Copernican
revolution. Over the past 100 years these shifts have happened so regularly
that no one even seems to notice them anymore. I don't think the Copernican
revolution is giving people trouble much anymore but most people are still
working in a Newtonian Euclidian world.

Photography, telephony, flight and the trains all revolutionized people's
world views in ways that are utterly transparent to most of us. Satellites,
and cell phones have done more to expand human consciousness than all of the
philosophers and theologians in history.

[Platt]
Reason (SOM) expanded human understanding of levels 1 and 2, but in so doing  
left values in the dust and lost them there, going so far as to deny their 
existence. The MOQ takes humanity to a new promontory of understanding where 
one can see, if he will only open his eyes, a new reality of Quality (values) 
whose structure makes reason (SOM) subordinate.