[MD] Bo's weak versus strong interpretation of quantum physiks

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On 17 Jul 2010 at 14:20, Krimel wrote:

[Platt]
Reason (SOM) expanded human understanding of levels 1 and 2, but in so doing

left values in the dust and lost them there, going so far as to deny their 
existence. The MOQ takes humanity to a new promontory of understanding where

one can see, if he will only open his eyes, a new reality of Quality
(values) 
whose structure makes reason (SOM) subordinate. 

[Krimel]
Reason expands human understanding at all levels, 1, 2, 3, and 4. For
example when we think about thinking it is called metacognition. Jonah Leher
makes a big thing of this. He claims for example that meditation is a form
of metacognition. In metacognative terms reason and emotion are often
thought of as separate modes of thinking. Jung talked about intellect and
intuition, for example. If we have been overzealous in sublimating emotion
and values since the enlightenment, it is a sublimation that emotion and
value richly deserved. Humanity was governed by its emotional values for
millennia. If reason finally got a chance to take charge for a change I say,
bully for it. And it has done a fairly nice job under the circumstances.
Reason is the late arrival even in evolutionary terms. Man seems to be the
only living thing we know to possess it. It also seems that the function of
reason is inhibitory. It serves to override the emotions and stop us from
acting on the immediate emotional "value" of the present. It helps us
subordinate what feels good to what makes sense.

[Platt]
Obviously you feel good about what makes sense. So do I, especially when I 
became convinced that Pirsig made a great deal of sense when he wrote: The 
Metaphysics of Quality would show how things become enormously more 
coherent-fabulously more coherent-when you start with an assumption that 
Quality is the primary empirical reality of the world." (Lila, 5)