[MD] an attempt at sharing good idea

[John Carl]

dmb:

Andy said to John:
> The solution you wrote makes my stomach ache. Disgusting!
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> dmb says:
> Disgusting? I thought it was okay.
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John:

Dang, dave.  I was shooting for "good".

At least I didn't get an F.



> dmb says:
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> As I see it, the problem with illegal immigration is that it creates an
> underclass, a group within this country that has no rights. I think it's
> about human rights, not money. Money is what creates the problem. It's a
> system that allows American employers to exploit people, and that drives
> down every working person's value in the job market. Because they have to
> live under the radar, illegal immigrants become prime targets for all kinds
> of criminals and the worst kinds of employers. One story I hear over and
> over is the regular guy who wants a few days of help around the house to fix
> of roof or build a deck or something. So he goes over to a spot where day
> labors hang out hoping to find work, picks up 2 or 3 guys, works them hard
> for a day or two and then when it's time to pay up the "employer" just says
> "fuck you, what you gonna do about it?" Maybe he tells them the work was no
> good and they don't deserve to be paid. This happens to house keepers too.
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John:

Those problems are real, and would be cleared up with a regulated system of
allowance and control.

But in the southwestern states, there's this growing cancer of drug gangs
taking over the government (on the Mexican side) and the populace and
prisons (on the Norte side)  This cancer needs treatment or it will just
keep growing.

dmb:


> I think the immigrants themselves are hardly ever considered as actual
> people when this issue is debated and discussed. I think that's evil. And
> dumb.
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John:

It depends on who's doing the discussing, but I agree I've witnessed a lot
of denigration and anger at Mexican Immigrants that was way overboard and
inappropriate.  Evil?  yeah.  I'd say the level of prejudice and rancor I've
experienced towards those who are basically, native americans, is just as
evil today as the days when "nits make lice" was voiced and acted on by
United States Cavalrymen.

 But then, I'm not only rootin' for Moby Dick, but I'm cheering on the
indians at Little Big Horn too.

My proposal is designed to increase cross-border commerce and interchange,
while eliminating the chaotic and destructive aspects.  Along the lines of
the EU, but without the common currency.

Thanks for the just consideration, dave,

John