[MD] Valuing Bodvar's SIM (BSIM)

[Mary]

Hi Arlo,



On Behalf Of Arlo Bensinger
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:06 AM
> [Bo]
> ... but nowhere on this earth - can't speak of cultures extinct - had
> the intellectual level been reached in Mesopotamian times...
> Intellect in the Western
> Culture arrived with what we - moqists - know as SOM in Greece...
> 
> [Arlo]
> Would you say the mathematics of the Babylonians and Egyptians were
> "social patterns"? 

[Mary replies]
Yes.  Most likely.

Do you think modern mathematics is a "social
> pattern"? 

[Mary replies]
Not sure.  Depends on what it 'values'.


Can you point to the differentiating features of these
> mathematics that would indicate one being "social" and the other
> being "intellectual"? 

[Mary replies]
Yes.

Also, there is evidence that several ancient
> (pre-Greek) cultures were able to mathematically and astronomically
> predict and describe precession. Would you say these precessional
> calculations and modellings were "social patterns"?
> 
[Mary replies]
If they did not value Quality, then yes.

> Lastly, if "intellect" didn't arrive until "SOM", do you mean
> actually "arrive" or do you mean "dominate"? 

[Mary replies]
I would mean arrive.

If there was no
> intellect prior to the Greeks, and intellect appears with/as SOM,
> that explain your earlier comment that "SOM is SOL run amok" (my
> paraphrase). Shouldn't SOL, in your formulation, have predated the
> "amokness" of SOM?
> 
[Mary replies]
Yes.  Certainly.