[MD] The weak versus strong interpretation of Quality Metaphysics.

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Krimel

21 July u wrote:

[Bo]
> Well, rationality (intellect) is a higher value level than emotion
> (society), but "sublimating emotion and values" sounds a bit odd.
> Value (quality) and emotion simply became irrational due to the
> intellectual level relegating such to its subjective realm, not a zeal
> to suppress them.  
 
> [Krimel]
> It is just this kind of jingoistic horse shit that produced the
> upgrade in your status from "harmless" to "mostly harmless." It moves
> you from being a clueless crank to a malicious bigot. 

I'm not much worried being reprimanded by you who don't profess to 
be a MOQist - more a badge of honor - it's the selfappointed 
defenders of the latter-day Pirsig  who pose the gravest danger to the 
MOQ.  

[Bo]
> Right emotions are what intellect says characteizes the past (what the
> MOQ calls the social reality, the levels know no levels) and as
> intellect is the highest static stance it is right, we see how
> emotions are "on the sleeves" of the Muslim world with great show of
> grief and hatred, burning of flags and effigies, sound and fury.   
 
[Krimel]
> Emotions are hardly a thing of the past any more than intellect is
> confined to the present. Like us, Muslims are motivated by a mixture
> of both.

Agree, the social level (emotions its foremost expression) isn't a thing 
of the past, but the levels have no inkling of the Q context so a culture 
that has transcended the social level will regard the past as "bad". 
However from MOQ seen all static levels are "bad" and I alternate 
between blaming society for being the block to intellect and intellect for 
being the block to the MOQ. 

Bodvar