[MD] now it comes

[plattholden at gmail.com]

On 26 Jul 2010 at 15:52, ARLO J BENSINGER JR wrote:

[DMB]
MOQers, this is a great example of why it is completely pointless to discuss
anything with Bo.

[Arlo]
As I said the other day to Adrie, its a genre conflict, with you speaking from
the "academic" genre and Bo and the SIMians relying on the distortions and
dishonesty of "talk-radio". This is all they have. Intellectually, Bo's pet
theory is nowhere. Its appeal has always been emotional. And while the
emotional appeal ranges a love of zen to a hatred of intellect to a need to
declare moral superiority over the "social" others of the world, it all boils
back to an "argument" sustained only by anti-intellectual emotionalism.

You are trying to speak "academically" to people who hold the word "academic"
to be a pejorative. You are trying to argue for the expansion of rationality to
people who wish to condemn rationality. And you expect rationality from them? 

[DMB]
Does anyone, other than the usual suspects, have any problem grasping this?
It's just so clear and simple to me that I'm a bit stunned that anyone could
fail to see it, let alone fail year after year after year. Is there something
confusing about that passage?

[Arlo]
Bo's understanding of Pirsig has always been weak at best. I am sure he thinks
he is onto something, and I've encouraged him to take his argument to valid
ground, to champion the stance that HIS ideas are BETTER than Pirsig's. But it
should not be a surprise that he doesn't understand the passages you keep
posting.

[DMB]
Calling all sane people, calling all sane people. I need a reality check. 

[Arlo]
Just as he misunderstood our recent dialogue about precessional calculations
(with several comments!), Bo is trapped in a prison of interpretative
legitimacy, and sees only that which allows him to say that HE speaks for
Pirsig (which has now devolved to 'pre-hospitalized Pirsig'... or Platt's
ridiculous "hey, he didn't say he didn't change his mind, so he might have!").

[Platt]
Outright lie. I never said that although it's shown in quotes. And then its all 
huff and puff with no substantive argument whatsoever except a single quote 
from Pirsig years ago. The fear that Bo is right is palpable.