[MD] now it comes

Krimel Krimel at Krimel.com
Tue Jul 27 05:45:45 PDT 2010


[dmb]
"...he [James] meant that subjects and objects are not the starting points
of experience. Subjects and objects are secondary. They are CONCEPTS derived
from something more fundamental which he described as 'the immediate flux of
life' ... James had condensed this description to a single sentence: 'There
must always be a discrepancy between CONCEPTS and reality, because the
former are STATIC and discontinuous while the latter is dynamic and
flowing.' Here James had chosen exactly the same words Phaedrus had used for
the basic subdivision of the MOQ. ...Value, the pragmatic test of truth, is
also the primary empirical experience. The MOQ says pure experience is
value. ...Value is at the very front of the empirical procession."

[Krimel]
As our resident James scholar I wonder if you could supply the reference for
this quote of James. I don't find it. There is a great deal of similar
language in Some Problems where James is clear that concepts and our sense
of "reality" come from perception. In fact James' account of what Pirsig
calls "the immediate flux of life" is "perception". Would you have a problem
equating the two?




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