[MD] Re Arlo

Horse horse at darkstar.uk.net
Tue Jul 27 10:01:27 PDT 2010


  Hi Platt

I think your reply clarifies your meaning quite well. In your attempt to 
validate Bo's version of the MoQ you are continuing the mangling of 
Robert Pirsigs work.
You appear to be proposing a further static level beyond the 
intellectual level in order to obviate the threat of the intellect as 
the highest static good. It's the Intellectual level as the highest 
static good that seems to be what causes you and the other SIMians to be 
fearful.
However, the MoQ states quite clearly that there are 4 static levels and 
DQ - that's it:

 From Lila Chapter 12
"In this plain of understanding static patterns of value are divided 
into four systems: inorganic patterns, biological patterns, social 
patterns and intellectual patterns. They are exhaustive. That’s all 
there are. If you construct an encyclopedia of four topics—Inorganic, 
Biological, Social and Intellectual—nothing is left out. No “thing,” 
that is. Only Dynamic Quality, which cannot be described in any 
encyclopedia, is absent."

So what you're proposing has little to do with the MoQ. The MoQ doesn't 
have a problem with seeing itself as an Intellectual pattern - you have 
that problem and that fear. And Bo's latest tirade on another thread re: 
academia bears this out well.

Horse

On 26/07/2010 20:00, plattholden at gmail.com wrote:
>
> On 26 Jul 2010 at 18:57, Horse wrote:
>
>    Hmmm! Not sure that makes sense as subset and subordinate don't equate
> to each other.
> Did you actually mean to say:
> "By making the Intellectual level subordinate to the MOQ, thereby
> avoiding the disharmony of recursion"?
>
> Works either way for me. Or, I could have said, " By making the intellectual a
> subtopic of the MOQ, thereby avoiding the disharmony of recursion. Or, I could
> have said, "By making the intellectual level a smaller box contained within the
> the larger box of MOQ, thereby avoiding the disharmony of recursion. Or I could
> have said, By making the intellectual a subsidiary of the MOQ, thereby avoiding
> the disharmony of recursion. Or I could have said  . . .  well, I hope these
> few alternatives help clarify my meaning.
>

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