[MD] Re Arlo

[MarshaV]

dmb,

You have misstated that the first quote was from Arlo to Marsha.  It was not.  


Marsha  




On Jul 30, 2010, at 9:35 PM, david buchanan wrote:

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> Arlosaid to Marsha:  Comments like this just make you look like an idiot. 
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> Marsha replied:  And it is like this comment of yours, Arlo, that reflects YOU as an idiot. 
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> dmb quotes Crawford:
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> "Pirsig's mechanic is, in the original sense of the term, an idiot. Indee, he exemplifies the truth about idiocy, which is that it is at once an ethical and a cognitive failure. The Greek idios mean 'private', and an idiotes mean a private person, as opposed to aperson in theior public role - for example, that of a motorcycle mechanic. Pirsig's mechanic is idiotic because he fails to grasp his public role, which entail, or shold, a relation of active concern to others, and to the machine. He is not involved. It is not his problem. Because he is an idiot.
> This still comes across in the related English words 'idiomatic' and 'idiosyncratic', which similarly suggests self enclosure. For example, when a foreigner asks him for directions, the idiot will reply idiomatically, rather than refer to a shared coordinate system. H ealso lacks the attnetive oopeness that seeks thing out in the shared world, as when Pirsig's mechanic 'barely listened to the piston slap before saying, 'Oh yeah. Tappets'. At bottom, the idiot is a solipsist." (Matthew Crawford, "Shop Class as Soulcraft", page 98.)
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> dmb says:
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> Rather than refer to a shared coordinate system - for example the english language - the idiot will respond with idoisnycratic meanings and defintions of her own. She might, for example, define 'patterns" as "amorphous" or use "static" to mean "ever-changing". This is a cognitive failure as well as ethical failure. Plus it's really annoying and it's likely to draw unflattering comments from anyone who sees this idiocy. 
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> Sorry, but that's how it is. If you talk like an idiot, then that's just what people will say about you.
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