[MD] Capitalism: my experience

[plattholden at gmail.com]

On 1 Mar 2010 at 13:12, X Acto wrote:

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Platt,
Thinking about thinking is just the beginning of a limitless trip to infinity 
and beyond. In reading your post I started thinking about thinking about 
thinking. And as I write this I'm thinking about the statement "thinking  
about thinking about thinking." It just keeps expanding ad infinitum, 
spilling out of the intellectual level into an abyss of vacuity.

Not a happy place to be. 

Ron:
 For someone who doesent like to think about thinking...I would guess 
not.
or you can call it reflection and avoid the semantic psuedo
problem.
You really do not seem to be able to make the distinction in 
meaning. This is Bodvars container logic paradox he keeps citing,
Moq in both explaining the world and being the world it explains
(what his SOL interpretation insists on) creates the violation of the 
container logic, it produces self refferential paradoxial loops in meaning
something Pirsig wished to avoid especially sinced it flew in the face of
what he was meaning in the concept of DQ/SQ.
This is just one of the many misconceptions Bodvar has based his SOL
interpetattion on. So if your assertions on self refferential statements is
to be consistent then you should also have problems with Bo's SOL.

Platt
I have no problems because the MOQ is about values, not about self-
referential statements. Those stuck in SOL try to ignore the profound 
incoherence of self-reference. (It's true there is no truth) Those who 
understand the MOQ are set free from the downward spiral into the 
abyss of vacuity.    

Ron:
So you are saying Bo's SOL is in a downward spiral into the abyss of 
vacuity?

Platt
Sure, if those caught in it never never find an escape route. Instead of 
"abyss of vacuity" perhaps you prefer Pirsig's description: "People living 
and dying in little cells of psychic solitary confinement, unable to talk to 
one another, really, and unable to judge one another because 
scientifically speaking it is impossible to do so."