[MD] The Intellectual Level of Quality, according to Mark

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Mary 

Your essay is a "tour de force" in the art of writing, just some 
philosophical (MOQ) comments and then one personal.  

> Men are predators and women are prey animals.

I see your point, but from a MOQ point of view human existence isn't 
all biological, but has been overlaid by the social value layer and this 
determines our existence just as much.. You speak about biological 
freedom and lack thereof, but much of the "bondage" you write about 
is social, f.ex. about women having to be nice and sugary ..etc. And - 
believe me - it's not only women who are subject to social mores. But 
then there's intellect that tries to fool us into believing that all our 
feelings (of being limited) is just subjective, we are really free ... except 
for determined by genes (heritage) and/or society (environment).     

> Gav talks about living a free, unencumbered life without a home.  I
> can only dream about such freedom.  No woman would ever do that.  Men
> can get away with it, but we women would just end up as somebody's
> prostitute or rape victim if we tried.

I don't know if it particularly American or Australian trait (due to the 
immense uninhabited landmass) but they seem obsessed with the 
idea of civilization breaking down after some disaster and people left to 
care for themselves in the wild. I'm no film knower, but I believe there 
are a lot of Hollywood productions about catasrophies when the 
alleged raw biological "dog eat dog" emerges. The latest is "The Road" 
made from a book by McCormack, this I haven't seen or read, but I 
have his "No country for old men" and McCormack reveals a mind 
obsessed with a feeling of imminent diaster, not natural, but some 
moral dissolution slowly creeping in on us. The book was a bit hard to 
read by his strange "country dialect" but the film was just creepy.           

Bodvar









> 
> John's recent story about a weekend campout where he met two women and
> considered playing strip poker one night.  How I would love to be so
> free! But reverse the story.  Imagine John were a woman named Jane. 
> He would instead be telling us about his gang-rape camping trip.  It's
> not fair! I've never hitchhiked across the country and never will, but
> men or couples (where there is a man to protect the woman) used to do
> it all the time.
> 
> My son comes home from school telling me stories about girls getting
> into fights now days.  I am disturbed by this.  You see, I'm the first
> to favor women's lib, and in my working life have benefited from it
> greatly (I too am in a male-dominated profession) but you have to
> realize that women do not have the same Biological Level of freedom
> men do.  I am afraid that as women break out of the Social shell that
> says we are all supposed to be sugar and nice, that we will only end
> up giving men the idea that we really are physical equals, so it's ok
> to treat us as such.  We are not.  I might be 6 feet tall, but I am no
> where near as strong as the smallest, shrimpiest man in my office. 
> Only a foolish woman would think so, and don't tire me out with talk
> of women weight-lifters, etc.  They are not the norm.  The other thing
> is that while most men might fantasize about being raped by a gang of
> women, I can guarantee you that no woman does that.  We have more to
> lose, and by "asserting" ourselves by becoming violent like some men,
> we are only setting ourselves up for trouble.  These young girls who
> get into fights on the school bus are kidding themselves.  They are
> not strong enough to fight off an aggressive football player.  I
> expect, over the next few years, to see alarming statistics start to
> make the news about how more young women are being murdered than ever
> before.  Mark my words.  It is coming and it makes me sad.
> 
> I would love to strike out on my own into the unknown and have dynamic
> experiences every day, but I am a prey animal.  It would be suicide.
> 
> Mary
> 
> - The most important thing you will ever make is a realization.
> 
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