[MD] The Quality of Equality

[Platt Holden]

Typical left-wing elitist attacks on capitalism and proletariat stupidity.

Platt

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:29 PM, khaledsa <khaledsa at juno.com> wrote:

>
> DMB
>
> You point about the social inequality is right on. Yes the game is
> already rigged.
>
> I think the reason Wilson used the term equitable, is to differentiate
> between the gains attained by hard work. Being all equal in a level
> field, the 'A' i earn in a class shows the hard work I put in as compared
> to the student who got a 'C'. If I fairly and squarely earn my mansion,
> that does not mean every one is entitled to a mansion to live in, At the
> same time, if I am fortunate enough to live in one, I should be keeping
> an eye out through civic involvement to make sure everyone has a roof
> over their head. Or at least has the opportunity to put a roof over their
> head.
>
> Back to your point about the system being rigged, here is one of my
> favorite passages form George Carlin:
> =====================================================================
> There's a reason for this, there's a reason education sucks, and it's the
> same reason it will never ever ever be fixed. It's never going to get any
> better. Don't look for it. Be happy with what you've got... because the
> owners of this country don’t want that. I'm talking about the real owners
> now... the real owners. The big wealthy business interests that control
> things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The
> politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of
> choice. You don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you.
> They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and
> control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the
> Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls. They got the
> judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so
> they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear.
> They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year
> lobbying. Lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want.
> They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I’ll tell
> you what they don’t want. They don’t want a population of citizens
> capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well-informed,
> well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested
> in that. That doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests. That’s
> right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a
> kitchen table and think about how badly they’re getting fucked by a
> system that threw them overboard 30 fuckin’ years ago. They don’t want
> that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient
> workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the
> paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these
> increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the
> reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that
> disappears the minute you go to collect it. And now they’re coming for
> your Social Security money. They want your fuckin' retirement money. They
> want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall
> Street. And you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from
> you sooner or later 'cause they own this fuckin' place. It’s a big club
> and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club. By the way, it’s
> the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long
> when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the
> head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what
> to buy. The table has tilted, folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems
> to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good, honest, hard-working people: white
> collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on.
> Good, honest, hard-working people continue — these are people of modest
> means — continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck
> about them. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck
> about you. They don’t care about you at all! At all! At all! And nobody
> seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. That’s what the owners count on.
> The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the
> big red, white and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes every
> day, because the owners of this country know the truth. It’s called the
> American Dream, 'cause you have to be asleep to believe it.
>
> here is the youtube link
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Cz4vcQKWfA
>
> ======================================================================
>
> > dmb says:
> >
> > That's not true. In that context "equal" and "unequal" is all about
> > fair and unfair treatment. In that context "equality" means equal
> > treatment under the law, equal opportunity in civic society, which
> > means nobody gets excluded arbitrarily from schools and jobs and
> > stuff.
> > It seem that sometimes people are against "equality" precisely
> > because of this kind of misunderstanding. I mean, social equality is
> > mistakenly believed to mean that everyone is identical to everyone
> > else. They take social "equality" to mean nationwide "uniformity" or
> > "conformity". This converts a term denoting "fairness" or "justice"
> > into a term denoting "totalitarianism" or even "the Borg". Yikes!
> > That's not even close!
> > When you're talking about weights and measures, "equal" does mean
> > "identical" because two cups equals one pint. But when we say Adam
> > and Steve were treated equally, we mean the treatment was fair and
> > just.
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