[MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality

[John Carl]

Yes!  And never apologize to me for interrupting because I do it all the
time and you might make me feel bad for doing so.



On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:06 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

>
> Sorry for interrupting, but equating theism and religion is a mistake,
> and you did say mistakes would be challenged. - m
>
>

Theism is religion, but not all religion is theistic?   Is that your
position/understanding?

Because mine is different.  Pantheism contains "theism", but most churches
would brand you a heretic for adopting that view.

In my lexicon, any theism represents reified ultimate value, and IN THAT
REGARD, the Moq is not merely atheistic, it's antitheistic.  In the same
regard where the MoQ is not a-SOMish, it's anti-SOMish.

But even as the MoQ is fully able to adopt subjects and objects as
intellectual playthings, so is it able to embrace the utilization of
religious conceptualization and play - as long as such theistic conceptions
are "tamed" by the Quality perspective - subordinate to what is good.

Go back, you and others who are confused by this quote, and read more
carefully the statement Pirsig made in the Coppleston Ann. and read it with
an eye toward interpreting what he meant by the modifier "in this regard"
when he stated that the MoQ was anti-theistic.  I think if read carefully,
it will clear some problems some have had in their attachment to anti-theism
and their prejudicial adoption of the concept.

Off to work!  See you at lunch.

John