[MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality
david buchanan
dmbuchanan at hotmail.com
Mon Mar 8 23:36:29 PST 2010
"In the third stage, that of 'absolute religion', the selfconscious subject and its object, Nature, are seen as distinct yet essentially related, and at the same time as grounded in an ultimate unity. And God is conceived 'as the Being who is at once the source, the sustaining power, and the end of our spiritual lives'. This does not mean, however, that the idea of God is completely indeterminate, so that we are forced to embrace the agnosticism of Herbert Spencer For God manifests Himself in both subject and object, and the more we understand the spiritual life of humanity on the one hand and the world of Nature on the other, so much the more do we learn about God who is 'the ultimate unity of our life and of the life of the world' <<<<<The MOQ would add a fourth stage where the term “God” is completely dropped as a relic of an evil social suppression of intellectual and Dynamic freedom. The MOQ is not just atheistic in this regard. It is anti-theistic. >>>>>""
gav said:
...i am confused - seems like a cop out to me...what difference what we call it? maybe that's why the indians have hundreds of names for it....
dmb says:
I think Pirsig is playing along with the Hegelian dialectic and mocking it the same time. As they tell it, the history of the world is sort of the unfolding of God's mind. Each stage of development brings the whole thing closer to a full realization of God. You know, in stage one God is objective. In stage two he is subjective. In stage three subject and object are seen as related and grounded in the same reality and in stage four, Pirsig says, "the term 'God' is completely dropped as a relic". He's not just asserting intellectual and Dynamic freedom from evil social suppression, he's also mocking the whole premise of Hegelian dialectics, subverting it by its own "logic".
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