[MD] Pirsig's revenge

[MarshaV]

Andre,

Very literal interpretation, indeed!  Here's two possible truths: The MoQ 
represents simply a static intellectual pattern and the MoQ represents an 
ultimate Quality reality (Emptiness).  Nobody has mentioned the end of 
all moons, it might be nice though, if we could even experience this one.  
I am learning to LOVE paradox, absurdity, insanity, dance, you...   

Marsha


p.s.  Much of the aim of the Mahayana variety is to break down the
illusion that subject and objects exist independently.   SOM must be
seen as a problem there too.  That's how it looks to me, but I
could be wrong.





On Mar 10, 2010, at 4:01 AM, Andre Broersen wrote:

> Marsha to Bodvar:
> I believe that an ultimate 'Quality' reality is what your posts have
> been stressing.  A Quality reality where intellectual patterns, of the
> SOM variety, may be seen as one possible truth among many, or both
> true and false depending.  I'll happily sit under the Bo Tree.
> 
> Andre:
> Hi Marsha, Bodvar, by this definition we cannot even intellectualise
> about the MoQ, whilst the quote from Lila you present does allow us to
> do so.
> The 'M' of the oQ allows us to do this.
> Under the intellectual umbrella of the MoQ intellectual patterns of
> the S/O variety, the non-S/O variety,the 'Eastern' variety and who
> knows what other variety, can be examined and those that are of value
> can be enjoyed.
> 
> The MoQ is an intellectual pattern of value. Despite Bodvar's
> objections to this, and Pirsig's insistence. To even suggest that the
> MoQ is the be all and end all of all moons to come is arrogance at
> least. And Mr. Pirsig is not arrogant.To equate the MoQ with Quality
> itself is an absurdity.
> 
> Andre
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