[MD] William James a wrong track..

[Joseph Maurer]

On 3/10/10 11:14 AM, "skutvik at online.no" <skutvik at online.no> wrote:

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Mystical raptures like religious ones are always combined with
overwhelming emotions and emotions cannot fully be conveyed by
language, sensation not at all, while philosophical insights are
"conceptual" from the outset and can ONLY be conveyed by
language.       
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Hi Bo and all,

Imho emotions are DQ.  There is no individual organ to receive emotions.  I
perceive emotions as a level in evolution.  The whole organic being changes
like from happy to sad, and emotions can change ideas from positive to
negative etc.. Emotions are DQ only.  I agree only analogies and metaphors
describe emotions.  Emotions convey philosophical insights like DQ.  I don¹t
know how DQ is conceptualized to SQ from an emotional point of view without
appealing to a dynamic/static, undefined/defined perceptive/conceptive
description of reality?

There is a physical pressure on organs receiving sensations and I do not
know why you place sensations outside of language?  I think hot or cold is a
sensation.  The interpretation of the vibration from the organ is either
true or false and can be conveyed in language.   I agree DQ is indefinable
and is not a conception but a direct perception.  There is always room for
error in speech, which is conceptualized, SQ, rather than perceived, DQ.
The logic of mathematics requires 1 to be defined, so mathematics is always
conceptualized and its logic is subject to verification by perceived
experience.

Joe

> Mystical raptures like religious ones are always combined with
> overwhelming emotions and emotions cannot fully be conveyed by
> language, sensation not at all, while philosophical insights are
> "conceptual" from the outset and can ONLY be conveyed  by
> language.