[MD] continental and analytic philosophy

Ian Glendinning ian.glendinning at gmail.com
Thu Mar 11 00:53:02 PST 2010


Andre, perversely, this is the point ... (obvious ? ... to oneself - clearly)

" ... how does this compare with Pirsig's stance that if you do not
create a metaphysics/ philosophy that in some ways makes for a better
world then forget it (other than retaining some sort of interest
within philosophical academia)?"

Paradoxically, I don't believe Pirsig's interest is (ever was) to get
situated in professional philosophy, despite appearing to "complain"
that it never happened. DMB is making a brave effort. The meta-point
is that it may be an impossible task to actually achieve ... and still
have MoQ intact as intended. Like Wittgenstein and Rorty, Pirsig
already realised professional philosphy was dead. There is only
language and pragatism, the stories we tell ourselves to understand
and live life. Still, nice to get that written down somewhere
"authoritative" though ;-) as Dave's continued attempt proves.

Regards
Ian

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Andre Broersen <andrebroersen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ian to DMB:
> I think Matt (and gav and others) are right though ... that there is
> an important style difference between "professional philosophy" on the
> one hand, trying to situate these arguments in the existing (US
> Pragmatist) canon, and those of us amateurs on the other who are
> simply comfortable with the obvious facts, enough to get with worrying
> about how best to apply them to real life beyond professional
> philsophy.
>
> Andre:
> Does the 'style difference between 'profesional philosophy' and 'us
> amateurs' (trying to apply the 'obvious facts' [obvious to whom I
> wonder]) make for this difficulty of applying them to 'real life'?
>
> Or has professional philosophy moved so much away from 'real life'
> that the 'style difference' reflects this and that it therefore
> doesn't really matter/or beyond comprehension...to 'us amateurs?
>
> Or how does this compare with Pirsig's stance that if you do not
> create a metaphysics/ philosophy that in some ways makes for a better
> world then forget it (other than retaining some sort of interest
> within philosophical academia)?
>
> Just interested.
> Andre
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