[MD] continental and analytic philosophy

[MarshaV]

You've made some good points.   


On Mar 11, 2010, at 3:43 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:

> Marsha, why would one want to (compete) ?
> 
> (And to pick up on Dave's own point ... you'd have to agree your
> rhetorical point was against him and his style, rather than the
> "professional" point of relating James and Rorty to Pirsig, which ...
> rather unconvicingly ... you said you didn't actually care about.
> These circles can be viscious.)
> 
> I'm not "defending" Dave's style - I get the rough end of it often
> enough myself - just crediting his particular objective.
> 
> Take care
> Ian
> 
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:18 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> How can one compete with the ample credit that Dave gives himself?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2010, at 2:52 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>> 
>>> DMB said
>>> 
>>> "... this question about language and experience, at least roughly, is
>>> about whether it's possible to reconcile Rorty and James. And people
>>> like them too of course. C'mon admit it. That's interesting."
>>> 
>>> Good. So yes that IS interesting. I though for a while there we were
>>> debating the no-brainer whether language (and tone and rhetoric and
>>> style of argument) were part of philosophy (or not ?!?!) Phew.
>>> 
>>> I think Matt (and gav and others) are right though ... that there is
>>> an important style difference between "professional philosophy" on the
>>> one hand, trying to situate these arguments in the existing (US
>>> Pragmatist) canon, and those of us amateurs on the other who are
>>> simply comfortable with the obvious facts, enough to get with worrying
>>> about how best to apply them to real life beyond professional
>>> philsophy.
>>> 
>>> I think Dave deserves some credit for the former - even if it sets up
>>> a viscious cycle of mutual frustration between the professionals and
>>> the amateurs.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Ian
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:03 AM, gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>> i thought language was experience
>>>> language extends experience
>>>> 
>>>> 'it is the capacity for imagination to expect, anticipate or extend experience that produces formations [language/concepts] that *seem* to govern human life but are actually outgrowths or fictions produced from life.'
>>>>  claire colebrook on deleuze
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --- On Thu, 11/3/10, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> From: david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [MD] continental and analytic philosophy
>>>>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>>>>> Received: Thursday, 11 March, 2010, 4:45 PM
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Matt. Despite your reluctance, it was a pretty
>>>>> interesting explanation. I'm not trying to draw you into
>>>>> some big thing but I'll answer your question.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Matt asked:
>>>>> ... how could there be a heated conversation about the
>>>>> reality of an experience-language gulf [snip] if no one is
>>>>> posing the other side (e.g., there is no gulf)?  People
>>>>> suit up for arguments when they have somebody to argue
>>>>> _against_, right?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> dmb says:
>>>>> Well, that's just it. I've not seen anyone who glosses over
>>>>> the difference. The debate seems to be about whether or not
>>>>> their irreconcilable differences can be overcome. To my
>>>>> mind, this question about language and experience, at least
>>>>> roughly, is about whether it's possible to reconcile Rorty
>>>>> and James. And people like them too of course.
>>>>> 
>>>>> C'mon admit it. That's interesting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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