[MD] On Pragmatism

[Platt Holden]

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Matt Kundert
<pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> Well, I simply spoke as someone that's read a reasonable amount of Fish's
> writings.  So, not "anybody's guess," because I'm guessing my guesstimation
> is a little more like, as they say, an educated guess.
>

Platt
Since I too have read a reasonable amount of Fish's writings I guess my
educated guess is as good as anybody's educated guess.

>
> And your quote from Pirsig is perfect: "universal" comes from "complete
> agreement," which is no Platonic method, and gives you no power to turn the
> universalness of Quality into a weapon.  Because as soon as "agreement" is
> broken, so does any power in the saying that it is a "universal source"
> evaporate.


Platt
I read it differently. "Complete agreement" describes people's understanding
of what the word "quality" means. Quality's as a "universal source of
things" is an axiom of the MOQ.

Wherever did get the idea that somehow I want turn Quality into a "weapon"?
 How would that even be possible?

>
>
> > "Quality, on which there is complete agreement, is a universal source of
> > things." (Lila, 6)
> >
> > What Fish really "meant by 'first principle' " is anybody's guess.
> >
> > Platt
>
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