[MD] DMB and Me

Matt Kundert pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com
Tue Mar 16 17:11:29 PDT 2010


DMB said:
If we reject radical empiricism based on the neopragmatist's 
rejection of traditional empiricism, we have inadvertently 
rejected the rejection.

In other words, my claims about Dynamic Quality and pure 
experience are not seen as part of this new conceptual 
arrangement. These claims are about concepts that replace 
SOM, which has been fired and sent into retirement. But 
Matt thinks I'm only re-asserting the claims of traditional 
empiricists. Not so. I'm talking about Quality, a mystic term 
that refers to a preconceptual empirical reality.

Matt:
My trouble with your understanding of the difference 
between us is I don't think I'm "rejecting radical empiricism".  
And I also don't think you are "only re-asserting the claims 
of traditional empiricists."  It's the "only"--I think you are 
doing the reconstruction job, the "new conceptual 
arrangement," but I also don't know why I need to pick up 
the "preconceptual empirical reality" term in my own 
"conceptual arrangement."  

Does not finding a need to use "preconceptual empirical 
reality" in my philosophy necessarily mean I'm rejecting 
radical empiricism?

Matt
 		 	   		  
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