[MD] DMB and Me

[david buchanan]

Ron said to Bo:
DmB is saying that if you are accusing Pirsig of equating DQ/SQ with S/O then you are not understanding what Pirsig is saying....and obviously you do not understand...


dmb had said
Right, if dynamic and static are equated to objective and subjective then you've put the problem right back where it was. DQ/sq replaces SOM. If they're equated, then you just have SOM replacing SOM. Clearly, there is no point in doing anything like that.


Bo said:
I couldn't agree more - this is my very point - only it's not me who does this, but the latter-day Pirsig by denigrating the MOQ to be "static" - totally nonsensical because it is the DQ/SQ "system".



dmb says:
Yes Bo, the MOQ is a "system". That's what makes it static. Look it's a simple syllogism.
Words and concepts are static.The MOQ is made of concepts and words.__________________________________Therefore the MOQ is static.

Another mistake is to equate "reality" with "objectivity" or "objective reality". To say that DQ is the primary empirical reality is NOT to say DQ is objective reality. To say that words and concepts are secondary is NOT to say sq is subjective. In fact, within the MOQ, "objective reality" is a secondary concept. If you think that Pirsig is saying that DQ is objective and/or that sq is subjective, then you're misinterpreting him in the worst way. 

 		 	   		  
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