[MD] Pirsig's theory of truth

[Andre Broersen]

Mary to everyone:

The platypus of truth.  Either you believe something is true for all time
regardless of whether it is known or understood at the time, or you believe
truth is contextual and provisional - true now but not true before.

Andre:
All you have written is SOM!

'Truth' is no platypus. In the MOQ 'Truth'is not a 'belief' either. It makes reference to the highest intellectual explanation of any given experience at the time. Because all is in a constant motion of flux, because all is undifferentiated, all notions of truth are provisional. Belief does not come in to the equation.

Mary:
It renders the debate moot by raising our consciousness to the realization
that we only have the debate at all because we are trapped in the
subject-object dichotomy.

Andre:
Speak for yourself Mary...( on behalf of Bodvar) The fundamental premise of the MOQ is ver, very clear.

Mary:
Once the assumption that subjects and objects are all there is is
transcended and we see that Quality is all there is, the futility of the
argument is apparent.

Andre:
This shows very clearly you do not read Mr. Pirsig very well and you do not accept the MOQ's basic, fundamental premise.

Mary:

Static patterns of value represent Dynamic Quality.

Andre:
Here we go again.

Mary:
The world as we know it is composed of nothing but static patterns of value.

Andre:
Here we go again.

Mary:
Truth is a SOL static pattern of value.

Andre:
Because you say so?

Mary:
For something to be "true" something else must be "false".

Andre:
This is indeed the logical conclusion from a SOM perspective.The either/or fallacy.

Mary:
Time is also a static pattern of value.  The concept of beginning and end,
future and past logically had to have been the "first" static pattern there
was.

This is because without the concept of time, there can be no change.  Change
requires comparison.  Without a "prior", what would be the change?

Andre:
Turn this 'logic' around' and you may begin to understand the static intellectual pattern (arisen from dynamic experience) that gave rise to the concept of time.

Mary:
All static patterns are SOL.

Andre:
Western imperialism and hegemony in one small sentence.

Mary:
Therefore, static patterns are neither "true" nor "untrue" because the
concept of truth is itself a static pattern.

Andre:
Ma ma go go... y ban ban ( this means: half/half, not quite there, only so so) truth is provisional. Whatever you want to make of the implications for all other static patterns is up to you to figure out... but your SOM intellect will only throw up more platypuses.

Mary:
So how do we resolve the nature of the static pattern of value we have
chosen to call "truth"?

Andre:
Where in the MOQ do you find this claim?

Mary:
What is true is relative and provisional and static - subject to change -
evolution.

Truth is a static pattern where we can easily see a demonstration of the
fact that static patterns though stable are not immutable.

Andre:
You say it, but you don't! What drives the whole thing is DQ/SQ. Your SOM does not recognize this.