[Marsha (verticality removed)] The lament [of ZMM] is based on a misconception: that entities (self & object) exist independently. [Arlo previously] Which is... TAADAA!.. SOM! If ALL intellectual patterns are SOM, this is NOT a misconception, it is the NATURE of intellect. [Marsha] NATURE of intellect is defined by ??? [Arlo] YOU as SOM.