[MD] e: Reading & Comprehension

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Tue May 11 17:10:40 PDT 2010


Marsha original statement was:
> Maybe in the West  many more intellectual patterns have became
> cancerous and dominant.



Marsha repeats:
All intellectual patterns are not cancerous, though, all intellectual patterns 
are SOM.  Intellectual patterns are misconceived as independent self and 
other.  

On what basis does your "I think" of agreement with Arlo exist?  By mistaken identity!  





On May 11, 2010, at 7:13 PM, david buchanan wrote:

> 
> Arlo said (repeatedly):
> 
> 
> .., if all intellectual patterns are SOM, what exactly was Pirsig lamenting in ZMM? If "intellect" can be nothing else but SOM, then what's the beef with Aristotle? And those Sophists, they were peddling SOM too.
> ... I think that calling "intellect" nothing but SOM achieves this. It puts intellect as a whole as a cancerous element atop society, it makes "intellect" at best something to be overcome in an otherwise harmonious evolution. Of course intellect should have moral dominance over society, but I think Pirsig's point of asking "was this the pattern intellect was going to run with?" shows that intellect-as-SOM is the problem.
> 
> 
> dmb says:
> 
> I think that's exactly right. SOM is the flaw, the disease and is not to be confused with the patient. That's what happens when you equate SOM with the intellect level; instead of saying the patient HAS cancer you say the patient IS cancer. You don't have to be a doctor to see what a huge mistake that is.  		 	   		  
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